You are absolutely right, of course. Stand up against the atheistic, Bible-denying heresy of Copernicanism! As the great reformer Martin Luther noted, the book of Joshua clearly states that the sun, not the Earth, stood still during the battle of Gibeon; the whole idea that the Earth orbits the sun (which was, according to Genesis, not even created until four days after the Earth itself!) is biblically absurd, perhaps blasphemous.
But even that may not go far enough. In our atheist-dominated public schools, students are denied the biblical truth that the sky is a "firmament" with "windows" in it to let the "waters above the Earth" fall as rain. Instead, they are indoctrinated in the Bible-hating naturalistic view that [a] the sky is not the sort of thing that can have apertures or hatchways in it and [b] rain is the result of purely naturalistic forces such as humidity, air pressure, wind speed, and temperature. It is neither fair nor right for Christians to have to pay to teach this monstrous pagan cult of "meteorology!"
And don't even get me started on "atomic theory." We know perfectly well where atomic theory came from: it was the idea of the pagan Greek philosopher Democritus, popularized by the materialistic Epicureans, who attributed everything in nature to "law" and "chance." Early Christians rejected the whole idea of "atoms," but the church gradually compromised in the following centuries, and most modern pew-warmers accept the Epicurean doctrine of "atoms" just as they do the pagan concepts of "meteorology" and "heliocentrism."
Richard
July 19th, 2012 13:34
All this bogus theology of yours aside, the main reason why public schools ban Jesus, though in more polite language, is because of the spiritual implications. Any excuse (and you made up at least three in your tirade) to stop kids hearing about Jesus, and Satan is happy. Teach kids comparative religion, or the value of ancient literature, present Hinduism, Islam or New Age and most parents are OK, but start telling kids Jesus is God's Son, who came to die for our sins, and watch the angry parents turn up!
Evolution and atheism are just two of the devil's tools used to block and obscure the truth about Jesus. Crazy objections, misquotes from the bible and deliberate fictions, even slander and 'straw men' are used by those who oppose God, but the reality is this: without Christ, the only place people can go is hell. Science cannot save you, atheism cannot save you, religion is useless, money and prestige are useless, only Jesus can save sinners from hell.
Steven J. Thompson
July 20th, 2012 05:00
Actually, I made only one excuse, with three examples: there have been many times in the past that Christians, based on their then-current interpretation of the Bible, have rejected new scientific discoveries (okay, strictly speaking, the Epicureans hadn't "discovered" atoms; that wasn't done until Dalton in the 19th century -- bit then, that merely shows that pagans can anticipate a scientific discovery without the discovery being a "pagan religion"), but they later got over this. In the case of the flat Earth and the geocentric cosmos, they mostly decided that the Bible was figurative when it spoke on these matters. Some modern Christians take the same view with regard to the Big Bang and the age of the Earth; some do so even with regard to evolution itself. And frankly, there's something a bit arrogant in the idea that you can take other people's money and turn the schools from their job providing a secular education to your job of evangelism and apologetics.
Azou
July 20th, 2012 11:42
You are aware that the bulk of our government is theist, right? There's literally one atheist in Congress right now, and local governments don't veer too far from that makeup.
You may not agree with their brand of theology, but it is nonetheless NOT atheists that are forcing you to pay taxes.
Richard
July 20th, 2012 11:46
IF Jesus is really the Son of God, IF Jesus is truly the Saviour, IF Jesus is the Creator of the world, IF Jesus is the only one who can forgive our sins, IF Jesus is the Judge of the universe, IF Jesus founded the one and only true way to truth, IF Jesus spoke pure and perfect wisdom.... then I see nothing wrong with teaching about Him in all schools. The problem with this viewpoint only arises when atheists and others of a similar character, make claims that there is either no God at all, or that all religions are the same. Just as the Pharisees and Sadducees resisted, blasphemed and doubted the claims and miracles of the Lord Jesus in His day, the same sort of crowd follows Christianity around today, making much the same protest.
Richard
July 20th, 2012 12:14
Thanks for that comment. Yes, I heard a poll recently that said Americans would not mind if a President was just about anything - and the range was very wide, including homosexual and Islamic - but he had to believe in God! Just what it means to 'believe' in God is an interesting question. As John Lennon quoted: God is a concept by which we measure our pain" and Hawking and others like to describe the Higgs-Boson particle as a 'God' particle, which is quite meaningless in scientific terms. Naturists call God Mother, and others like to think of God as Everything... so its like a lolly scramble.
My definition of "God" comes from the Bible, as you would expect. I think the best representation of "God" is Jesus, who showed a perfect balance between all the virtues and lived a life consistent with His own teachings - unlike most Christians who try to follow Him.
Azou
July 21st, 2012 20:20
Nowhere in your long-winded spiel did you acknowledge that your cartoon contains a glaring error.
Atheists are not the ones making you pay taxes.
Richard
July 22nd, 2012 13:10
Good point, but by the same token I would not like to have any public/State/secular school force children to sit under exclusively Christian education. If 'religion' must come into schools, let it be fair and even-handed. Let children hear the case for all views, so they can sort the wheat from the chaff. (I have a similar view when it comes to the evolutionary indoctrination - teach children to make critical evaluations of the material, ask questions, test the doctrine, and compare it with the creationist model)
Personally, I prefer to send my kids to a Christian school, because I know Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, and I know the spiritual path He taught is the best, and the truest of all the options. But there again, here in NZ there is a financial twist, because Christian parents who opt to do homeschooling, still have to pay tax to support the public school system, so they pay twice - first for their home-school expenses and secondly for the secular education down the road. A small subsidy is granted to parents, in their second year, but it is a hard row to hoe as they say.
So yes, I think the cartoon is reasonably accurate. Some money does come from Christians to support State education, which is biased towards Darwin and atheism. But cartoons are simple representations - not serious discussions.
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